I wasn't defending FA, so much as putting a simple question to BA, since I find his reason a bit suspect. and I must say I'm even more suspicious of him now, with the way he is throwing accusations around and not caring who he gets lynched.

Why sould I throw around accustions without evidence?

'Cause it's fun...

HAHA! Inactive as usual?
Hmm, I posted every single day I was alive the last 2 games :p
I am taking the same stance I did in the last game. A lynch vote in the first round simply increases the odds of killing the 2 we don't want to kill. It is a straight up shot in the dark! With the odds totally in favor of the "loyalist". They basically get 2 almost guaranteed kills for free the first round! We have zero information at this point! And that doesn't count the Agent of the Crown kill.

Thats my 2 cents worth for now!

@ BA: *sigh*

Obli:

The agent of the crown doesn't get a night kill, does he!??! Cause if so we're screwed...three kills a night against the rebels' one from lynching...

Ok Sage so I mis-spoke errr typed. It is the foreign agent I was referring to, not the Agent of the Crown.

There's too many agents.

Plus I was sorta hoping the real agent of the crown would come out and say "nah, I don't get a night kill"

BA, i sure hope that superstition doesn't come true..
well, simply coz i'm on the other side of the globe from you guys.. so your day is my night. so when you guys are actively posting, i'm either at work, or sleeping. so i post the vote first before i get suspected for being inactive and get lynched.

Sage, now after posting that.. i doubt the agent of the crown would step forward.. lol

markk, ew're still waiting in the centre of town for your generator...

to clear things up:

normal phase: mob guillotine (everyone)
conspire phase: loyalist lynch (Mafia and AoC)
assassination phase: Foreign Agent
protection phase: doctor
inquiry phase: constable

annnndd
come on people.. vote!!!

hmm.. 2 votes for gutter already.. and he DOES seem awkwardly quiet...

as of now, i still can't put a finger on anyone in particular yet.. though i do suspect a few, it's still to early in the game to really tell. maybe the first round i'll just go with the flow as with previous game..

No lynch this early in the game helps the mafia, which makes me suspicious of those two that voted for no lynch.

However...I think everyone knows that no lynch helps the mafia, which makes me wonder if the mafia would actually be stupid enough to vote for no lynch.

No lynch = the loyalists getting a hit on us without us chancing killing one of them.

To expand:

There are 4 loyalists and one foreign agent. That's 5 enemy players out of 18.

We have a TWENTY EIGHT percent chance of randomly lynching a killer. That's a good enough chance that passing it up is criminal.

I remind you that there's 100% chance that one of US will die tonight.

Anybody voting "no lynch" despite the good odds is, in my opinion, asking to be voted for.

Okay, no word from Gutter yet...I'm voting Gutterfly.

Neb

We've got a 72% chance of hitting an innocent if we vote to lynch with no information. Las Vegas would love those odds. The loyalist and the assassin get to kill two more - the mafia know who they are, and if they kill the assassin, what do they care? The assassin has 17 targets, and he doesn't care either. So, voting no lynch does not mean you are mafia, just means you want to keep the odds in our favor. I think anyone voting TO vote first round is suspicious. Mob mentality means the bad guy usually wins 3 out of 4. Again just my 2.5 cents worth.

How many is it to lynch today? Just make sure we dont kill anyone before giving them a chance to defend themselves.

18 total people today
so 10 votes will cause someone to be killed and start night time

Bleh...I don't think you're a loyalist anymore. But I do think you're misguided. Each mafia member is worth (in strictly mathematical terms) 3 regular citizens.

Consider it as if we were on equal teams. We have a 28% chance of killing THREE enemy troops...and a 72% chance of losing 1.

It's worth probably losing one for a chance to kill three.

But I won't argue this anymore. Maybe I'll just stop thinking and ACTUALLY vote Gutterfly.

Note: Actually voting for Gutterfly is stupid.

If its just a blind shot, why not kill the guy that isnt contributing to our cause? thats why I vote Gutter

I'd give him at least til morning before we accuse him of lurking. I haven't seen him online at all. He's probably just at work or something.